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Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Knitting A Scarf

I bought some SUPER fancy (read: expensive) cotton yarn to knit Andrew a scarf.  I made all sorts of fancy swatches for him to choose from (no photos), but he always came back to stockinette as his favorite.

Hey, I just noticed that there's an alpaca on the cotton yarn tag!  I thought that was a photo of out-of focus cotton plants.  Ha!  Hello, cute sneaky alpaca! No wonder this yarn is so very soft ... since it's made by people used to the softness of alpaca.

Well, as knitters probably know, stockinette rolls on the edges and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.  Well, *I* didn't know that.  But after discovering that my stockinette was rolling, I did a whole bunch of google searches hunting for a solution.  

Most often people suggested that you add a border of garter or seed stitch around the stockinette.  I think that's kind of ugly (and Andrew agreed).  One person suggested double knitting, which intrigued me.

When you double knit with two sticks, you cast on double the stitches you want for the width (an even number).  Then you [knit, slip purlwise] across.  Turn and [knit, slip purlwise] across. Repeat repeat repeat.  What you're doing is knitting the front on one side and the back on the other.  What you end up with is a tube that's closed on one end!

How awesome is that?  It totally blew my mind the first time I really understood what was going on.  It's knitting in the round, but flat.  The right and left edge are a little goofy, which is why most knitting in the round (like socks) is done on 3-5 needles.

Andrew loved the double knitting (which showcased the super softness of the yarn, too).  But once I got several inches done, we realized that the double knitting was WAY too thick.  Once the scarf was on, he'd have four layers to try and tuck into his coat.  Gah!  Back to the swatching board.

In desperation, I tried the easiest stitch there is, garter stitch (all knitting, all the time).  He loved it.  I didn't try that in the initial round of swatching, because I didn't want to be lazy.  I'm all about stunt crafting. Extreme Crafting! EXTREME!!!

Well, it's actually perfect because I can take this project to places where I'm talking (Craft Bar and the park) and I won't have stitches to keep track of.  Just knit knit knit knit ... and talk.

The other good thing is that it's going to use less yarn than the double knitting, so I will probably have yarn left over to try a hat or gloves.  Yay!!!  I bought some double pointed needles this weekend and I'm itching to learn how to use them.
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kingshearte said ...
I'm knitting my brother a double-thick scarf, although I decided not to try and tackle double knitting. Mine's just flat, and I'll sew it into a tube later. I did go with a pretty fine yarn, though, so I'm hoping it won't be too much when it's done.

Good luck with your dpns. I found them way less terrifying than I imagined they would be, although I also know at least one person who just can't seem to get the hang of them. Are you using a set of 4 or 5? Personally, I find 5 way easier to work with.
6/29/2010 9:37 AM

futuregirl replied ...
kingshearte ... I got a set that had four needles. I'd probably prefer 5, but the selection at the store was limited. I bought the set by the same manufacturere of the needles I'm using for the scarf.
6/29/2010 5:07 PM

I had heard about double knitting to make a 2-sided 2-color object, but didn't bother to look up instructions. I just kind of made it up as I went along. I really like this method though. It would be fun to do a purse this way I think.
6/29/2010 11:22 AM

futuregirl replied ...
Jennifer Lavender ... Yes, the two color, double sided knitting is intriguing. You don't have a tube with that, though, because you're swapping the front and back yarns through the middle, which creates interior connections between them.
6/30/2010 12:40 PM

Hilary said ...
Double knitting is pretty nifty, huh? When I first learned it, it blew my mind, too! It looks like you've got a great solution in the garter stitch, but for the future, 1x1 rib ([k, p] across) looks a whole lot like Stockinette when unblocked (or, if you block it, just don't stretch it out) and doesn't roll. Happy knitting!
6/29/2010 12:26 PM

futuregirl replied ...
Hilary ... Awesome! Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely try that out some time. :)
6/30/2010 12:41 PM

emily said ...
i love DPNs. i have yet to try circulars because dpns are so fun!
6/29/2010 1:24 PM

futuregirl replied ...
emily ... I definitely love the way they *look.* Like you're a yarn surgeon. So complicated and awesome! Hopefully I like them in practice, too. :)
6/30/2010 12:43 PM

linda p said ...
I love that yarn, mmmm dreamy. I made a baby blanket out of it but I think it's actually for me.

IF you find yourself needing to knit stockinette again, there are a couple solutions. In my opinion, the easiest is to work the always KNIT the first and last 3 stitches (while alternating rows of knit and purl in between for the bulk of the scarf) to give it a garter edge, while still having an overall stockinette effect. The other is to crochet a border, but, maybe that's not as fun on a man scarf.

Have fun!
6/29/2010 1:49 PM

futuregirl replied ...
linda p ... I *know*! That yarn is like heaven. I broke it a couple times when I first started knitting because I was knitting TO TIGHTLY when I first learned. Now that I have a nice loose tension, the yarn feels just like a cloud.

And, yes, no crochet allowed on the man scarf. :)
6/30/2010 12:50 PM

Catherine said ...
I made a double pointed needle tutorial, in case it's helpful to you! :)

http://catherinehirst.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/double-pointed-needles-tutorial/
6/29/2010 2:05 PM

futuregirl replied ...
Catherine ... Yes! That is helpful! Thank you! :)
6/30/2010 12:50 PM

Emily said ...
Love the yarn and color, love the alpaca on the tag, and love the "extreme crafting."
6/29/2010 6:45 PM

UK lass in US said ...
I've had that problem many a time. I ended up knitting the scarf in garter lengthwise when making a scarf for my son (http://uklassinus.blogspot.com/2009/01/lengthwise-knitted-scarf-for-beginners.html), so that it would still drape and roll around the neck. I'm still looking for an alternative, mind.
6/29/2010 8:52 PM

futuregirl replied ...
UK lass in US ... That scarf is great! I don't have circulars yet, so I couldn't have done that this time.
6/30/2010 12:55 PM

kate the kid said ...
maybe think about using a really fluffy (eyelash?) yarn to do the double knitting, but i love jennifer lavender's idea to make a purse using that method...what an easy way to make a felted purse, the ideas are endless...and you could make a hat that way and just cast off and then make a pom-pom and pull the cast-on ends to the center and tie all the bits together there...that would be an EASY hat...more ideas...gotta finish my &^$# dissertation and my fingers are *itching* to stop playing with computer keys...soon...
6/30/2010 9:31 AM

futuregirl replied ...
kate the kid ... Sucks that you don't have the time you want to play. Soon enough! And you'll have loads of great project ideas waiting for you. :)
6/30/2010 12:56 PM

Karen said ...
Re: Hello, cute sneaky alpaca!

This gave me a bad case of the giggles :)

And that yarn looks SO fluffy and soft and cuddly...it makes me wish it wasn't a million degrees outside so I could get me some bundle up in it
6/30/2010 10:46 AM

futuregirl replied ...
Karen ... Ridiculously, it's still SUPER cold here at night (around 50 degrees and windy), so if I get it done soon, he'll be able to use it. :)
6/30/2010 12:58 PM

Kuky said ...
I just checked my knitter's book of finishing techniques. And according to the book, all the cast on methods have the drawback of rolling towards the knitted side except for a tubular cast on and the provisional cast on. Now I don't know if that's because it actually does not roll or because they neglected to mention it as one of the drawbacks. :-D
6/30/2010 3:09 PM

futuregirl replied ...
Kuky ... In addition to the cast on edge rolling towards the knitted side, the right and left roll, too. The whole thing becomes a tight little log of knit. :) I need to learn all the cast ons! I just do the long tail, because it's fun!
6/30/2010 10:04 PM

Betsy ( the cramped hand) said ...
Looks like you have a great start to your scarf.
Alot of mens scarfs are a 2x2 rib or cabled which is way easier than you think. I love my double points I have just about every size. I like sets of 5 and wood needles must be wood. Great for making socks and hats
and mittens.
7/1/2010 6:34 AM

futuregirl replied ...
Betsy ( the cramped hand) ... Yeah, a rib might have been the way to go. :) Knitting continental the way I do, switching between knit and purl is super easy. After doing the double knitting (knit, slip purlwise, repeat) I had a lot of trouble going to knit knit knit knit. I kept wanting to go back to my other rhythm. :)
7/1/2010 3:23 PM

Derlyn said ...
Are you doing any cables? I also want to do a scarf for my husband and wanted to know how you are going to do it for ideas and plus i love your work.
7/1/2010 7:28 AM

futuregirl replied ...
Derlyn ... I offered to do cables, but he thinks they look too feminine. :D Definitely if your husband is into cables, do them!
7/1/2010 3:24 PM

April said ...
Hey, I just ran across this in a pattern using garter stitch, but I did a swatch and it should solve the rolling problem when using stockinette stitch.
Instead of adding that border (which I agree, throws the whole look off), on all knit rows (the right side of the piece) do this: K1, bring the yarn to the front as if to purl, slip the next stitch purlwise, the bring the yarn to the back (abbr. s1p), knit until two stitches to the end, s1p, K1. On all purl rows (or wrong side) just purl all stitches. The result is a tiny little bar every two rows across the one stitch, but it is subtle enough that probably only a knitter would notice. To stabilize the cast on and cast off edges, I would suggest knitting the first row and last row *k1, s1p* repeat from * to * until end.
Hope this helps next time you want flat stockinette!
7/2/2010 11:41 PM

futuregirl replied ...
April ... Oooo, I'm intrigued! I'll have to try that out. :)
7/8/2010 12:58 PM

it looks so lovely and cushy. my mind was blown a little the first time i ever did a swatch of double knitting. it's fantastic. as are projects that involve mindless knitting where you can just knit knit knit :)
7/3/2010 4:43 AM
 
futuregirl replied ...
ana @ imadeitso ... Three Cheers For Mindless Crafting (so we can think think think about other stuff)!!!
7/8/2010 12:58 PM

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